Graspop Metal Meeting 2019 - Nieuws en geruchten

[kobloodflames]

Dik tevreden dus tot nu toe! ?
Maar uiteraard blijft er altijd nog een hoop te wensen over..

Hoop op:
Avantasia
Babymetal
Battle Beast
Beast In Black
Cradle Of Filth
Dethklok
Dimmu Borgir
Draconian
Epica
Kamelot
Månegarm
Shylmagoghnar
Tenacious D
Therion
Wardruna

Ook blij met:
Asp
Astral Doors
Be’lakor
Belzebubs
Bloodbound
Carach Angren
Dio Disciples
Elvenking
Insomnium
Majesty
Marmozets
Metal Allegiance
Oomph!
Orden Ogan
Prophets Of Rage
Saturnus
Skálmöld
Sólstafir
The Melvins
Ufomammut
Van Canto
Wintersun

Tenacious D! Dat zou awesome zijn. Staat heel hoog op mijn lijstje bands die ik nog graag een keer wil zien. Vind hun nieuwe album niet super, maar de eerste 2 albums maken dat helemaal goed. En de themesong van post-apocalyptico is ook best catchy dus daar mogen ze van mij best mee opkomen

 

[defplay]

I'm still curious about WT as main headliner:
1. No poster with group position
2. Image with WT for 21.06 disappeared from Twitter/Instagram, though KISS/Slipknot has it.

Hope for a bigger name. Any ideas?

 

[sledgehammer]

I’m still curious about WT as main headliner:
1. No poster with group position
2. Image with WT for 21.06 disappeared from Twitter/Instagram, though KISS/Slipknot has it.

Hope for a bigger name. Any ideas?

No bigger name: Within Temptation has been confirmed as the Main Stage 1 headliner for friday. It's possible though that for example Slayer might be added as the Main Stage 2 headliner, after the upcoming European tour of Slayer has been completed and that band announces its summer tour schedule.

 

[Joslittel]

Ja, het blijft wel apart dat er nog geen volle line-up poster is met alle namen. Doet wel vermoeden dat er binnenkort nog een aankondiging komt met iets meer namen + start kaarten dagverkoop. Ik verwacht inderdaad geen headliner meer, in laatste persbericht staat duidelijke dat de MS1 headliners bekend zijn. Maar GMM kennende kunnen de namen op MS2 minstens even groot zijn als de namen op MS1, dus er zal vast nog iets moois in het vat zitten.

 

[Dr. Hannibal]

I’m still curious about WT as main headliner:
1. No poster with group position
2. Image with WT for 21.06 disappeared from Twitter/Instagram, though KISS/Slipknot has it.

Hope for a bigger name. Any ideas?

Slayer!

 

[MetalLimbo]

I’m still curious about WT as main headliner:
1. No poster with group position
2. Image with WT for 21.06 disappeared from Twitter/Instagram, though KISS/Slipknot has it.

Hope for a bigger name. Any ideas?

No, the press message they brought out is pretty clear on this:
https://www.graspop.be/en/news/kiss-headliner-sunday-june-23/216/
On 23 June 2019 Kiss take to the stage in Dessel for a fourth time. The band completes the list of headiners on Main Stage 1. Within Temptation headline on Friday 21 June, Slipknot on Saturday 22 June.
Of course, they still might add a big(ger) name (perhaps Slayer or Manowar?), but I think Amon Amarth will headline MS2 on Friday, and bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd, Trivium and King Diamond will take most subspots.

My guesss:
Friday: King Diamond (MS1) - Trivium (MS2) - Within Temptation (MS1) - Amon Amarth (MS2)
Saturday: Lynyrd Skynyrd (MS1) - Disturbed (MS2) - Slipknot (MS1) - Slayer (MS2)
Sunday: Whitesnake (MS1) - Def Leppard (MS2) - KISS (MS1) - Sabaton (MS2)

 

[defplay]

WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner... Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.

 

[graspop20]

Within Temptation sells more tickets than Manowar and Slayer.

 

[MetalLimbo]

WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner… Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.

I think you're underestimating Within Temptation as a headliner, especially in the Benelux.

 

[Rick1617899545]

defplay wrote:
WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner… Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.

I think you’re underestimating Within Temptation as a headliner, especially in the Benelux.

And I think you`re overestemating their status
No way in hell the`re qualified to be headliners, with their pop music

 

[MetalLimbo]

Set Abominae wrote:

defplay wrote:
WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner… Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.


I think you’re underestimating Within Temptation as a headliner, especially in the Benelux.

And I think you`re overestemating their status
No way in hell the`re qualified to be headliners, with their pop music

It sounds to me like your personal taste is kinda getting in the way of proper judgement..

 

[Rick1617899545]

defplay wrote:
WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner… Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.

I think you’re underestimating Within Temptation as a headliner, especially in the Benelux.

And I think you`re overestemating their status
No way in hell the`re qualified to be headliners, with their pop music

Rick wrote:

Set Abominae wrote:

defplay wrote:
WT can stay on MS1, but there can be someone bigger for MS2 for example, it 2017 Evanescence was replaced by Scorpions on the banner. Last year the banner was there without the 4th headliner… Does not make sense for me if they sure in WT as main day headliner and not plan to put someone above.


I think you’re underestimating Within Temptation as a headliner, especially in the Benelux.


And I think you`re overestemating their status
No way in hell the`re qualified to be headliners, with their pop music

It sounds to me like your personal taste is kinda getting in the way of proper judgement..

No, it is not, this has nothing to with metal music of any kind
So, no, they should not be headliners

 

[Joslittel]

Waarom zijn we opeens in het Engels bezig hier? Onze buitenlandse vrienden konden prima uit de voeten met Google Translate geloof ik

 

[Rick1617899545]

Waarom zijn we opeens in het Engels bezig hier? Onze buitenlandse vrienden konden prima uit de voeten met Google Translate geloof ik

Dan gaan we verder in het Nederlands, en ook daarin vind ik nog altijd dat WT weinig tot niets met metal te maken heeft
En dan ben ik nog wel fan van Epica, Nightwish, Delain ed.

 

[cryinghorizon]

Natuurlijk mag je vinden dat Within Temptation geen metal is en er niet hoort. En ja ze zijn inderdaad softer dan de gemiddelde andere band, maar dat maakt ze niet minder goed of populair. En die twee dingen maken ze gewoon headliner waardig. Bovendien weet je niet waar ze met hun nieuwe album heengaan he. Misschien verrassen ze je wel op een positieve manier.

 

[MetalLimbo]

Joslittel wrote:
Waarom zijn we opeens in het Engels bezig hier? Onze buitenlandse vrienden konden prima uit de voeten met Google Translate geloof ik

Dan gaan we verder in het Nederlands, en ook daarin vind ik nog altijd dat WT weinig tot niets met metal te maken heeft
En dan ben ik nog wel fan van Epica, Nightwish, Delain ed.

Within Temptation is a Dutch symphonic metal band founded in April 1996 by vocalist Sharon den Adel and guitarist Robert Westerholt. They have always been classified by critics as gothic metal, although the "gothic" influence varies with each album. Their most prominent and well-known sound is described as symphonic metal, although their earlier material, such as debut album Enter, was mostly gothic metal. Enter even had a hint of doom metal. In an interview, den Adel said they fell into a symphonic rock genre with various influences. In a later interview with Dutch music platform 3VOOR12, den Adel stated that "we consider ourselves more a symphonic rock band ... in my opinion, we are no gothic band".
Tja, of je het nou leuk vindt of niet, het blijft toch (een vorm van) metal..
En laten we eerlijk zijn, bands als Lynyrd Skynyrd, Foreigner en The Bloody Beetroots, zijn zeker geen metal, maar staan/stonden er ook.
Lijkt me een misvatting dat Graspop alleen maar (100% zuivere) metal zou mogen programmeren.

 

[Joslittel]

Mooie discussie. WT is in vergelijking met oa Nightwish en Epica inderdaad softer, maar naar al deze bands luister ik met evenveel plezier. WT heeft een aantal erg sterke nummers die ik graag over een festivalweide hoor schallen, en ja, ook over een Metalfestivalweide. Door metalheads wel geaccepteerde bands zoals Judas Priest vind ik persoonlijk niet harder of meer metal dan het werk van WT,

En hoe dan ook, populair zijn ze en daarom een prima boeking als headliner.

 

[Paddy]

Juist buiten de Benelux staat hun plek als headliner niet ter discussie. WT is wereldwijd een grote naam.

 

[sledgehammer]

And I think you`re overestemating their status
No way in hell the`re qualified to be headliners, with their pop music

I do find Within Temptation a somewhat surprising choice as a headliner, because you can see them play regularly in the Benelux at reasonable ticket prices.

But the argument that they're not 'real' metal, is not a valid argument in my opinion. It's not like Kiss, Def Leppard, Whitesnake or Lynyrd Skynyrd are much heavier. The question is whether the band is popular among the regular crowd that visits Graspop, not whether they are "metal" enough.

 

[Rockbeer]

In mijn ogen is Within Temptation een van de beste headliners die Graspop had kunnen boeken en ik vind het dan ook heel dapper dat ze dit aandurven. Wel verwacht ik een erg grote naam ernaast.

Er wordt vaak gezegd dat festivals als Graspop alleen maar uit de oude vijver blijven vissen. Within Temptation is het bewijs dat dat niet hoeft. Inmiddels heb ik deze groep al vijf keer gezien ofzo en ze vervelen nooit!! 22 december is het opnieuw feest in Tilburg.